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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:41:00 -
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Quite often do gates firing freeze my grafic card and screen for a few seconds before my grafic card recovers from it. So the game doesnt crash but it freezes up for 10-15 secs occasionally. I dont belive it is my grafic card because this only happens around gate fires and only happens in this game.
My pc:
CoreDuo 2.33Ghz 2xHD3870 Xfire 4Gig RAM Vista 64 bit 1280x1024 resolution
Everything cranked up on max basically.
Is this a known issue? Can it be fixed by lowering anything or updating some odd driver? I have latest drivers though... -------------------------------------- [Video] Angel of War |
Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:59:00 -
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Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.08 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian Do you have AA switched on?
Radeon cards are nortoriously bad at running AA - try with it off and see if you still have problems (let us know).
Uhm where is the AA switch?? I can't see any in grafic settings. And it is has nothing to do with my card. It's more powerful then a 8800gtx and can handle x16 AA in other games just fine.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.08 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian it'll probably be in the Catalyst ontrol Centre.
I didn't notice on the first read that you're running a crossfire setup - this could also be part of the issue (crossfire compatibility has been a major headache for ATI).
also, on its own, a HD3870 is slower than a G92 8800GT (who told you it's quicker?)
No I just meant that my setup, ie hd3870 in xfire, is faster then a 8800gtx and runs AA without any problems in other games.
But thanks I'll check it in ccc but it shouldn't be on at all because I havent forced the AA settings in there. Wich means if the game doesnt have an option to activate it, it shouldnt activate. I can also clearly see that AA isnt being used when I play eve. But I'll give it a shot.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto I have the same video card(single 3870), and the same issue. Check your event viewer and you will find an infinite loop error.
It's a driver issue, and one which I doubt CCP or ATI will do anything to resolve. I have bug reported a petitioned this and my petitions are just closed without a reply.
The best you can do is keep complaining and hope they will fix it. There is no fix, and I have found that certain driver versions allow a VPU recover, others do not. Also if you run in windowed mode it will not vpu recover and will hard lock.
Great now CCP and ATI will play the blame game on who is supposed to fix this. Tbh CCP should because this error only occurs in this game and frankly I don't see why a game still played in 2008 shouldn't support a card like HD3870.
I don't run in windowed mode and have the newest drivers so the vpu does recover but it freezes for about 10-15 secs wich is pretty f*cking bad around gate fire in pvp.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: RogueWing 3870 here, but I don't have any problems with it.
Could you post the rest of your system please?
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:57:00 -
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Oh ffs. After patch vpu doesn't even recover but freezes my whole system instead. They still haven't answered my petition about it. This is not ok CCP.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:36:00 -
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Hah, now it gets even better. Now I crash when people warp in and show up on my overview and there is no answer to be seen in my petition still. I guess I'll have to close my account again.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.11 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Flybye Lyria, what PSU do you have?
Many moons ago when I upgraded a video card, I was getting all sorts of errors. At first I thought it was a bad card and I replaced it. It ended up being my PSU not being able to give it the juice it needed.
What I'm really curious about is....why do you have 2 cards in Xfire and you are only running 1280x1024? LOL.
I run xfire because I play Age of Conan on maximum settings with it. AoC with all its bugs isnt crashing my whole system. This is an EVE fucup. They need to fix it.
You know how I can be so sure it is lousy ccp programming? Because this happens ONLY in this game (a game that doesn't even use all of my pc resources) and it happens around certain events like gate fires and ships warping in on my overview. You can't blame that on anything else because it is triggered by events in this game.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.12 14:43:00 -
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Bump and its going to be bumped forever unless ccp answers me in here or my petition in game.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:28:00 -
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Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 12/06/2008 21:32:03
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Bump and its going to be bumped forever unless ccp answers me in here or my petition in game.
Good luck with that, they simply close my petitions and never reply.
I hear ya. Mine is "in action" for days now and no ******* reply yet. ******* incompetent ****s. |
Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:42:00 -
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Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:19:00 -
[14]
Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 13/06/2008 14:51:47 Bump. Still not working and my petition went from "in action" back to "open". GJ CCP. GOOD ******* CUSTOMER SERVICE. |
Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 14/06/2008 15:58:38 Why does ccp ignore petitions? It would be just nice to actually just get an answer like "we are working on your problem" or "we don't know what is causing this yet but we will solve it soon". Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto They are hoping that you will give up, because they'd rather focus on "new content," rather than fix technical issues.
Seems so. Still no answer. Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 10:03:00 -
[18]
Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 16:26:00 -
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Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 19:52:00 -
[20]
Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian Edited by: Elysarian on 15/06/2008 20:28:21 ok...
try disabling sound?
post your PSU rating?
there's a possibility that the problems aren't actually graphics related... but if they are... try disabling Xfire?
Edit to add: because a LOT of people are playing Eve without encountering the problems you are.
1. This doesnt explain why ccp is ignoring my petitions in game for weeks
2. I have tried disabling all sound all grafics, doesnt help.
3. A game that cant handle xfire of a card like hd3870? Eve living in 2001 or what? Should I get a vodoo 2 card? Get real.
4. Where can I see PSU rating?
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian
Calm down dear...
Please read the part of my post requesting details of PSU - it *could* be important (open case, there should be a ratings sticker on the PSU).
Well what the heck is the PSU and where do I read mine?
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:49:00 -
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650W PSU. Should be more then enough, right?
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Myrkala Are these "gatefires" you speak of rendering almost the same effect that is rendered when you take hull damage and your ship starts flaring like a candle? Cause I am having trouble with that. If so, its very likely these are related issues.
Don't worry to much about the 650 Watt rating of your PSU tho, Lyria.
Ye, I wasnt too worried about the PSU, afaik 650 watt should be pretty much even overkill for a fairly high end system like mine.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Myrkala I just hope CCP fixes their fire/smoke animations soon, they are probably causing looping errors or memory leaks...
At least telling us to get better drivers or better hardware wont work this time hmmm? ;)
What p i s s e s me off the most is that they dont even have the courtesy to atleast answer petitions. Ignoring customers is stupid.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:54:00 -
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Btw this is the error that occurs:
Display driver atikmdag stopped responding and has successfully recovered.
Oh and sometimes it doesnt recover and jacks up the system too.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:11:00 -
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Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 17:38:00 -
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Bump.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.16 22:50:00 -
[29]
Bump. I wonder if I can petition a petition.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 05:40:00 -
[30]
So I finally got an answer. They told me to update all my drivers. Sound, chip etc. I did. Still doesnt work. Still same problem. Still waiting for another answer.
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Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.24 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer So I finally got an answer. They told me to update all my drivers. Sound, chip etc. I did. Still doesnt work. Still same problem. Still waiting for another answer.
I got a similar reply, but they also acknowledged that there is an issue with these video cards. They did however, try to send me over to ATI.
We are making progress, we just need to keep pressing them so they will decide this issue is worth their time.
Yup now they are trying to get me to roll back drivers etc. Well Ive tried them all, none work. This is still not fixed, it only happens in this game, it only happens around gate fires and jump bridges. This is an eve issue, not ati or anything else.
Bump. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.06.25 00:59:00 -
[32]
Bump. Still no answer from GMs. My petitions getting ignored. Wow great service! *sarcasm detector explodes* ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Notice how they comment in other threads sometimes, but won't go near this one?
They also haven't offered a solution, or done anything to try and make me a happy customer. Shame on you, CCP. Any other business would bend over backwards to try and make their customers happy.
Well, after several days of being told to try the basic stuff I knew wouldnt work (like drivers back and forth, check gpu heat, turn sound off etc) they finally accepted the fact that it is a REAL bug after looking at the debug info I sent them. They even agreed to reimburse my shiploss because of this bug eventhough they had no evidence server side of it. Now I'm supposed to fill out a bug report. Thats it. I wonder how many months it will take them to patch this bug. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 08/07/2008 12:15:21 Bump. ccp still hasn't refunded days I havent been able to play because of this bug they wont fix. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.10 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto If anyone else is actually able to get the logserver to work right, go ahead and submit your logs. It might help light a fire under their ass, though I have found the bughunters to be less than satisfactory.
I don't see how having unpaid volunteers as the link between customers and the devs can be a good idea.
I got it to work. Provoked the crash. Sent it in. GMs aknowleged something is wrong. I was told to fill out a bug report. Yeah, I have to fill it in myself now. Still no fix. Still nothing else except a ship reimbursement Ive gotten from them because they definately know this is bogus ccp programming at fault. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.16 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 16/07/2008 00:05:01 This is a serious issue. A new card like x3870 not working. A freeze that is triggered by gate fire. CCP you cant shove this problem onto anyone else. THIS IS YOUR FUCUP. FIX IT. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Neiiman
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 16/07/2008 00:05:01 This is a serious issue. A new card like x3870 not working. A freeze that is triggered by gate fire. CCP you cant shove this problem onto anyone else. THIS IS YOUR FUCUP. FIX IT.
Well, if it was a generic AMD/ATI 38xx-problem, there would be loads of users complaining. Is there?
No matter how you twist logic you cant claim this is not an eve bug. It is triggered by an event in the game and can be reproduced at will. It does not happen in any other game. New or old. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Neiiman
What do you know about similar things happening or not in other games; i.e. why even make that comparision?
Because I play other games on this card. You can't deny it is the games fault when it is triggered by a game mechanic, sry. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Neiiman
Originally by: Sarin Adler No he won't get over it because the game is unplayable lol. Bump from some who has the same exact problem.
(I've send a bug report and provided all what they asked, dump files logserver files, dxdiag files, explained it all). Aparentlly it wasn't enough, good luckw ith your bug report.
The part she should/would get over, is that we have different opinions - not the error experienced.
Get it?
You are the one not getting it. This problem exists even with older drivers. This problem is triggered with a game mechanic and is reproducable at will. There no friggin way you fanbois nor ccp can convince us that this is not a CCP FUC UP. Fix it. End of story. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
Great, end of story. You'll stop writing here now and continue the petitioning, right?
I'll continue on all fronts until I can play a game 100%. Why? Because I pay 100% of the monthly fee. Yup, true story. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.19 02:23:00 -
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Bump. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:34:00 -
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CCP fix it. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: KhaniKirai Check if you play with high cache.
I only use cache off or low, because i had those freezes as well. Seems the caching eve does is VERY ineffective and in fact is slowing things down after a long while.
PS: with cache OFF, you can get problems creating new char, so turn it back to low, to make an alt if u need one.
I'll try it, thanks for the tip. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.24 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Terinnon Dunno if this helps, but i ran Vista x64 with a Radeon 3850 512MB for years with eve never had any problems... replaced them a few days ago with a Radeon 4850 Crossfire Bundle :)
Yeah it helps us to know that you ran a new card like 3850 for years and switched it to a 4850 and have had no problems. Thanks, that helped. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.28 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 28/07/2008 05:23:22
Originally by: Crove I would like to see this and numerous other ATI problems fixed. Ranting to CCP, however, is a waste of time. CCP's job is to program EVE, which uses DirectX. It is not CCP's job to make ATI's drivers respond properly to standard DirectX calls. ATI's support so far of the entire HD series in general has been absolute crap, and if you own an HD card like the OP, you know this.
If you'd like to see this problem resolved, you should either call ATI's support number (which I cba to register an account on their support site just to get), or write them a nice letter.
One AMD Place P.O. Box 3453 Sunnyvale, CA 94088-3453
Get a clue. It is intresting how EVERY other game is able to make proper directx calls where ATI drivers dont get infinite looped while ccp cant. You cant deny responibility from a lock up that is TRIGGERED BY A GAME EVENT. Sorry mate/ccp this is your fuc up. Fix it. Truth is that HD cards are excellent cards and there is generally nothing wrong at all with ATI drivers. As long as I have used ATI cards, and that is a long time, I have never had issues. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.28 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
Oh really? There were times ATI drivers really sucked. You just haven't been around long enough...
Thats odd everything from my x600 to x850 to x1950xtx to HD3870 has worked without any probs through the years and I have played ALOT of games on them. You know whats funny? My card works just fine on everything else. Funny how this is not ccps fault. Please. Btw the new ATI drivers dont solve the issue. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.30 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
And your bug reporting on this matter, you've complied fully to all matters requested?
Any status reports on the issue after you've done this?
BTW, ther have been ATI cards even before the ones you are mentioning. And your constant "everthing else/every other game works just fine", adds nothing. You can't compare games unless they're using the same Game Engine, i.e. List of Game Engines.
I'll quote myself from another thread:
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
You feel that ccp are doing their best?
I have petitioned it. I have told them EXACTLY what causes it. EXACTLY how I can reproduce the bug/freeze. I have also let their debug program run in the background to collect the debug info when the crash occurs. I have SENT them this info.
What does the GM say? Bug report it with all this info.
My question is: "Why the fuc did I give YOU all the info if youre gonna treat me as a parrot to repeat the same damn thing to another info box?"
No that is not good support. It aint. You can "feel" whatever you like. You are not the one paying 100% monthly fee and not getting a 100% game in return. mkay?
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Varkyl Wydon ATi has had horrible drivers for over ten years. I hate ATi drivers but I really like their image quality. If you are using the standard catalyst drivers and having issues try using the omega drivers. They tend to make for a more stable machine. Not sure if it will help but worth a shot.
Good suggestion but too bad that there are no ati omega drivers for vista 32 even and no speak of a 64bit version. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.04 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Maxamillian Kage I'm still having issues as well. Tried the 8.6 drivers and decided to stick my x1600 back in.
Same here. Still not fixed. Bump. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:38:00 -
[50]
Still not fixed. This is bullshit. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.14 17:01:00 -
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Fix this. It has been weeks and we cant play like everyone else. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.22 22:54:00 -
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Same issue still for me aswell. Bug report guy is clueless also. Giving advice like update drivers (Ive already tried like all drivers) and reduce resolution (lol?). I would once like to see someone admit that this is their fault and not some stupid driver or hardware issue. Something (and we know exactly what: gatefire) is CRASHING OUR GPU. FIX IT. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.23 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bohoba Xfire here and seen no problems are you all in 0.0 or empire ?? when this happens
It happens both in empire and 0.0. Its not a node or lag issue or a specific gate issue. Its something about the grafic routine in gateflashes that crashes the gpu. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.28 18:19:00 -
[54]
The bug triggers ONLY if you actually see the gate fire. If you have your camera all the way zoomed out or if you face away from gates when they fire you won't crash.
Btw, I've been in contact with bug reporting team for weeks now. First they gave me the same old driver this driver that thing. Now when they ran out of those golden suggestions my bug report is left without answer like my petition. They need to get ****ing working on this, they cant shove this on ATI or hardware. This is an eve employee programming fuc up that needs to get looked at asap. We have been playing a buggy game for months now without them lifting a finger. If I pay 100% of the monthly fee I WANT TO PLAY A 100% COMPLETE GAME. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 28/08/2008 23:31:19 hmm? I've still had the issue while zoomed out, pretty sure it was all the way. I'll try looking in another direction.
hmm strange. Well an easy way to passively provoke this bug is to just sit at a busy gate in high sec and look at the gate. You dont need to jump yourself to freeze. So try sitting at a gate faced away from the gate fire a while and see if it happens or not. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:42:00 -
[56]
I'm still ignored by the bug report team. Yeah good advice GMs and people on the forums: "Bugreport it". I did. They ran out of solutions. Now they wont talk. GJ CCP. |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tamoko Just wanted to point out that, though I appreciate the difficulty of the situation, you've effectively antagonized every single person that's come in this thread with advice. That doesn't bode well for finding a solution to your problem. Stop acting like a spoiled brat.
Everyone gets what they deserve.
1. Person comes in the thread and asks us to do totally irrelevant changes or stuff we already have tried weeks ago and tries to make us look stupid when it is actually not our fault at all but it is ccps problem.
2. CCP has been ignoring us. GMs sent me to bug report team after a few weeks, bug report team gave up and arent answering anymore after another few weeks of contact. Now if they treat their customer like crap, Im will address them accoringly in this thread.
People that have tried to help us in a helpful way have been answered with respect. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:38:00 -
[58]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Inappropriate content.Applebabe
WoW atleast the threadnerfers seem to read the thread. Too bad tech support doesnt. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.09 18:04:00 -
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I'm in contact with bugreporting team again but I cant test the latest thing theyve said I should do because Im on vacation. Gonna check if anyone has tried it or not.
They are saying I should clear my cache and settings like described here.
Anyone tried this? Result? ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.11 18:55:00 -
[60]
the 8-8 has been out since 20th august. I tried it already on the 22nd august with no luck. Still same problem. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.24 20:01:00 -
[61]
Still not fixed. Ive done everything theyve told me. Cleared cache etc, reinstalled everything. Now, no answer for days in bugreport. I wish they would atleast tell me they are looking into it if they are and not just throwing me basic fixes that have nothing to do with the issue that dont even work. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:33:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 26/09/2008 09:35:07 Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 26/09/2008 09:34:29
Originally by: Leelo Atriedes Edited by: Leelo Atriedes on 25/09/2008 13:14:16 This may, or may not, be part of this issue:
Faulty Radeon 3800-series cards shipped
"All cards lack power management features; the 3850s were identified to have quality issues with poor soldering and integrated memory problems while the 3870s were delivered with a wrong resistor value, which can result in computers not starting up and system crashes."
Honestly, are you working for ccp?
How do you explain that BOTH my HD3870 cards are not working with eve but with ALL, let me repeat ALL, other games on max settings. How the heck do you explain that a game mechanic in eve triggers this. Have you any knowlege of computers? EVERYTHING points to eve code making these cards crash. Oh and if you read closer there are people that dont have 38 series that are also experiencing the SAME problem. You cant shove this away. Stop posting nonsense that doesnt help.
Yes Im angry because my bugreport is now being ignored for days and weeks after they went through all the stupid stuff like "clear cache and update drivers". Im angry because I cant play the fully eventhough Im paying for it and ccp does not have the courtesy to say "we are looking into it and not just giving you stupid suggestions on what to do we know dont work". I want them to ****ing admit this is their fault and that they are TRYING to do something about it. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.09.26 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Leelo Atriedes
Judging by the rare instances of any CCP responses here, I'd say you be better of pursuing your bug reports - this forum doesn't bring your case forward the slightest.
When my bugreport is getting ignored for days and weeks you suggest me going where, if not here? Seriously. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 30/09/2008 11:17:31 Latest news: Finally an answer came from the bureporting team. They say they are aware of this problem and the bugreport is now "attached to a defect" status and is being tracked in their defect tracking system. Now we can hope they find the solution. |
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Posted - 2008.10.06 03:55:00 -
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Still not fixed... ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
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Posted - 2008.10.07 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto the bug report system is useless and the bug hunters don't speak for ccp. They told me it was attached to a defect many months ago. They are just ignoring you. I'd advise you to either stop paying ccp or get some new hardware, sell or trade your current gear if you can.
Wow, that is [insert long ugly word]. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jug McKenzie I'm having the same issue and am somewhat relieved to find its not an isolated problem! I've had intermittent issues ever since having my HD 3870 x2. I've tried multiple cards with and without crossfire enabled and still have the same problems with eve (and not with any other application/game).
I can't say my experience is linked specifically to gate fire events but can't rule that out (I just haven't associated the two). What I have noticed is that as I have upgraded drivers from the set that was shipped to the current Catalysy 8.9 version, is that the behaviour of the defect is different:
Originally the display driver seemed to fail, with the screen going black and the card fans going to 100%. Windows (Vista 32) would still run fine and I could talk on TS, but had to reboot for the display to recover.
Subsequently (after a few driver updates), the problem was more that the driver would fail for up to 2-3 minutes with the screen going white/black before "recovering from a serious error". I could still alt+tab to other applications in the background, while eve was waiting to recover. Occasionally the screen would go black and the fans up to full duty, but much less frequently than before.
Now with 8.9, I still have the occasional crash to black with fans going mental, but the main symptom is the game locks up completely and I lose all control in windows, needing to reboot the machine to recover. The fault seems completely non-deterministic though, sometimes I can run eve for 4-5 hours without a single issue (even with 3 instances of eve running on the same machine), and other times I can have 5-6 crashes in one hour with 1 client running. In all cases the only applications running are eve and TS.
Does this sound similar to anyone else experience?
Yes all that sounds familiar to alot of us and its pathetic that a huge bug like this hasnt been confirmed officially as known bugs. |
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Posted - 2008.10.19 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 19/10/2008 00:27:25
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare Come on CCP, at least give us a statement on this! Anyone want to buy 2 brand new HD3870 X2's?
I think this is what they are hoping for; That HD3870s will age and people will forget about this issue. Well I'm not forgetting it. Worthless crap programmers and bug hunting team that does nothing but ignore issues served on a plate. I've given them several pages of info, debug logs, everything. I mean cmon, atleast say if you are ACTUALLY working on it or just say "sorry not enough of the customers are affected by our bug so we are not putting money into fixing it and we hope you'll just get a new card instead". ffs. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:41:00 -
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I wonder if QR patch fixed this issue. I don't have my hopes up though. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.11.20 17:44:00 -
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For ****s sake can they fix this already?! |
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Posted - 2008.11.27 14:00:00 -
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CCP are such liars. The bug team told me they attached it to a bug and basically confirmed the issue. THAT WAS MONTHS AGO. It would be ****ing nice to atleast get a ****ing update on the issue, if it is getting fixed or if it is just going to get ignored so we can just go buy new grafic cards just so we can play eve. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Molly Mayhem
And while we're at it, does disabling sound seem to fix the crash for anyone?
No, it crashes with everything turned off. All grafics on low, sounds off. Still crashes.
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.11.28 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: steveid I want to reiterate to people tht this is an ATI problem, not CCP. It is something a lot of people are having with a few games and is explained here: http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-radeon-display-drivers/133188-vista-7-3-display-driver-atikmdag-stopped-responding-error-2.html
One of the best known solutions that works for most is only using 1 ram stick instead of two. Works for me, i use a 2 gig stick instead of 2 1 gig's and have no issues now.
How about this? I bet it doesn't work because your source is full of clueless nublets. It won't work just like the gazillion other standard solutions like clear cache, resinstall game, update drivers.
This is a eve problem and you cannot convince anyone of anything else when it is a game mechanic, gate fire, that is activating the problem EVERYTIME and ONLY in this game. I can play cod4, cod2, bf2, bf2142, age of conan, witcher, medieval2, pirates of the burning sea, wow without any problems whatsover. They NEVER EVER crash. Many of those are very new games and even dx10.1. Don't come and tell me this isn't eve's problem. It is crappy ccp programming and it is time they admitted it and fixed it. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.11.29 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 29/11/2008 16:07:30
Originally by: steveid it would be nice if you could turn off the gate fire graphics as an effect. Probably stop the issue and I imagine make fleet fights on gates less likely to lag.
tbh tho its not a card load problem afaik. I was in a 1000 man fight that was on a gate that was constantly firing and had no problems at all. Once the inevitable happened and i had to fly a few jumps to gate back in it in a new ship i had the issue in a system with 4 in it. Odd.
If you're zoomed out in a fleet fight you don't see the gate flash and therefor don't crash. If you have max zoom out you NEVER EVER crash around gates. There is a grafic command that is being used for the gate fire flash that is causing the gpu to crash obviously. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.02 11:20:00 -
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This is still not fixed. Bump. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.03 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: michelle lavite Filed a new petition with CCP. I got a response to update the audio and video drivers as the combination might be causing the problem. In my case I've already tried just about everything with 6 ATI driver versions under my belt. I thought I would post it as others might find it useful.
Nope, done that months ago. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:36:00 -
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Still not fixed. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.10 11:02:00 -
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Still not fixed and bug reports systematically ignored. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.10 15:01:00 -
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Still not fixed. Odd how we don't even get a single asnwer or confirmation on a problem that has now existed for OVER SIX MONTHS. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.11 20:37:00 -
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Why is my bugreport ID:66261 being ignored about this issue? ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.12.12 12:21:00 -
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Bugreport is still ignored. No confirmation of anything. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.14 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Matarella
Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 (R680) (512 MB)
That's the problem. Eve is sending these cards requests that lock them up. CCP won't admit it and are ignoring the problem. Bug reports aren't getting answered and nothing is being done. This issue is more then SIX MONTHS old. Yeah, it's quite disturbing as you can see. Customer support? What's that? Sigh. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.15 13:46:00 -
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Bug report still ignored and issue still persists for over SIX MONTHS and counting. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.17 12:49:00 -
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Still not fixed and bugreport still ignored. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Still not fixed and bugreport still ignored.
Do you think it's being deliberately ignored? Malice rather than incompetence? If so then perhaps trying to engage the CSM on your side or perhaps getting in touch with Internal Affairs might be your best routes.
Where and how do I do this? I' not too familiar with all that. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.28 01:47:00 -
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Still not fixed. Bug reports still ignored. I'm only putting up with this until 22nd of January; Release date of a better NONBUGGED sandbox mmo. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:52:00 -
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Still not fixed. Bugreport ID66261 still deliberatly ignored. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:08:00 -
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Bump. See above. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Neverending Story |
Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2009.01.02 12:47:00 -
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Bugreport: "We are already aware of this problem, and have added your bugreport to the existing issue in our defect tracking system."
Great, but this has been a problem that you have known for over 7 months now. Why isn't anything happening? This is not good enough.
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